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Thx so much Kristin. Don’t forget our wonderful Catholic universities and our commitment to Catholic Social teaching. Just like other Christians we are polarized with Vance being an ultra conservative right wing Catholic. The USCCB is now waking up to fear what is happening to immigrants. And Vance’s claim that is only because of funding is ludicrous as the money is only used on immigrants.

I will keep going forward. I am an activist and lobby/advocate in the areas of hunger, poverty and immigration.

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Yes!

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The Catholic church has been no less a consistent source of reactionary politics — it is historically the central seat of Western counter-revolutionary politics. So the centre-right continental reformed traditions have always been politically sympatico with their own Christian Democratic third-way doctrines where they try to inject compassion into capitalist market economies while still being totally pro-aristocracy, pro-oligarchy, and usually fairly racist, anti-feminist, etc. It was this centre-right that went into coalition with national conservatives in Germany and opened the door to Hitler and then went right along with him. This is what's next up, in a rather different world reality, as Germany and other European nations can't go on repressing their "populists" (persistent votes for nationalist right parties) forever.

So, consider the historic lessons a significant argument against trying the same things with religious centre-right/third way efforts. What is so bad about the actual left or a totally off-spectrum position?

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I’ve been out of the Catholic Church for decades. Anyone heard lately about what the next papacy might shape up to be? Seems like another Pope like Francis could go a long way towards fighting the creep of the right that we’re seeing in evangelicalism in the global south. Maybe John McGreevey would know. Dunno…

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