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Charles Meadows's avatar

On weekend mornings at the hospital many of the pts are watching TV. One room after the next has Fox or newsmax going. Lots of these folks are in poor health, and poor financial shape - and have so little to look forward to. Not surprisingly they seem to relish the idea of burning it all down, to see if it comes back better - and the grifters take full advantage. You & your bunch are actually shepherds for these poor people - though they doubtless wouldn't recognize that. Thanks for your efforts and example.

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Kim Vine's avatar

This past week I’ve been sharing on FB facts—backed up with articles that include eye witness accounts, such as an episode of OnPoint that featured two of the former Trump staff who signed the letter supporting Gen Kelly. I’ve never been exactly discreet about how I feel about Trump but I decided to really go for it so that at the very least I could say that I tried. So far I’ve had a retired Lt Col tell me that my problem is that I’m listening to the experts, that these 4 star generals like Kelly and Milley are bitter because they got disciplined, and that if I’m going to do that why wouldn’t I also listen to Dr Phil? Another told me she couldn’t vote for Harris because of the “news” that Walz is a pedophile. And a couple that my husband and I recently became friends with told us that while they find Trump “repugnant” they have to vote for him because it’s a means to an end. We decided not to ask what those means are, but I don’t know that we’ll be going out to dinner with them again.

When the retired Lt Col told me asked me what definition I was “using” for fascism I first reminded him that Gen Kelly was the one who had introduced this—not me—and then used Project Democracy to illustrate the different facets (it is an excellent website!). He then told me that it’s the left that is meeting the definition, not Trump. I’m so discouraged at the insistence to deliberately not just ignore the facts, but to take those facts and somehow make them true in their mind about Harris. I am finding himself thinking that the only way out of this is for him to win, and do literally everything we know he and Project 25 promise, so that maybe THEN the people who voted for him will finally get it?!?

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